tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post6763614271048477476..comments2024-03-29T04:34:13.159-04:00Comments on The Sign of the Frothing Mug: Flash, not substanceJDG Perldeinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-86566947211124554382012-06-18T21:05:36.280-04:002012-06-18T21:05:36.280-04:00The goal of putting out words like this blog often...The goal of putting out words like this blog often does is to provide a little bit of a voice for people who feel that way, and give them an easy place to get in touch, at least in part. You are acting like Josh is some sort of autistic terrorist who is tearing apart your precious hobby, and that is pretty much what you would condemn him for.tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-36260536040464531662012-06-18T21:05:33.885-04:002012-06-18T21:05:33.885-04:00Actually, I get to decide whatever I want when it ...Actually, I get to decide whatever I want when it comes to my version of the hobby, you pathetic whiner.<br /><br />As a demonstration, all further posts you make here will be deleted sight unseen.<br /><br />See how easy that was?JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-84456200656595530332012-06-18T21:03:40.564-04:002012-06-18T21:03:40.564-04:00Do you think that it is the right of any gaming gr...Do you think that it is the right of any gaming group to only allow the people that they want to play with? Of course we can't DESTROY WIZARDS OF THE COAST or some shit, but why can't we have our own philosophies about gaming and game only with people who agree?<br /><br />Are you kidding me?tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-50946752420701064782012-06-18T20:39:35.789-04:002012-06-18T20:39:35.789-04:00Its "endangered" because no one plays th...Its "endangered" because no one plays that way anymore, and for good reason: it's antithetical to growth, and downright hostile to newcomers. It is literally pushing anyone away who does not meet your stringent roleplaying requirements, setting up barriers for a faux "cool nerd club." THIS is what I'm challenging, if nothing else.<br /><br />You don't get to decideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-64284435101554643692012-06-18T20:33:14.902-04:002012-06-18T20:33:14.902-04:00I'm pretty sure that most people that run game...I'm pretty sure that most people that run games can claim ownership of them. It's part of running a game to decide who you will and will not play with.ALT-F4https://www.blogger.com/profile/05339312314663495778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-60623640959820856802012-06-18T20:27:26.012-04:002012-06-18T20:27:26.012-04:00>excluding people is evil
>I know, I was exc...>excluding people is evil<br />>I know, I was excluded all the time in high school.tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-17948092179814694492012-06-18T20:25:46.512-04:002012-06-18T20:25:46.512-04:00If you can't read dem hard buchs then you am n...If you can't read dem hard buchs then you am not smart. That is a simple enough thing to understand, I dunno how you could possibly take offense to this.<br /><br />Also, I can claim as much ownership over it as I want, as much as anyone else does. I play a certain way, and that way is "my" game. I'm within my rights to defend the way I play, particularly since it seems to be JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-86663970221244906782012-06-18T20:20:23.368-04:002012-06-18T20:20:23.368-04:00YOU are the one insulting the base intelligence of...YOU are the one insulting the base intelligence of most people by assuming that, if they can't parse college-level reading for a roleplaying game, then they shouldn't have fun with it and they shouldn't be in "your" game. As if you can claim ownership of such a thing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-8980415834651357182012-06-18T20:09:00.618-04:002012-06-18T20:09:00.618-04:00A requirement where? Do you think all of these old...A requirement where? Do you think all of these old grognards got into the game when they were 30? Most of these oldfags played AD&D and the like when they were preteens (though I am sadly not one of them!). Strangely, college-level readers are not all necessarily college students or graduates. A deal of them are in the fourth grade.tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-55524009363403287572012-06-18T20:08:34.501-04:002012-06-18T20:08:34.501-04:00If you are implying what I think you are, it's...If you are implying what I think you are, it's that teenagers are stupid and can't be asked to understand difficult, interesting, or complex things. If that's the case, then the can play a different game than me.<br /><br />Really, I don't believe that for an instant. There are plenty of smart teenagers in the world and YOU are the one insulting them, not me.JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-55065903333986125282012-06-18T20:04:13.396-04:002012-06-18T20:04:13.396-04:00"My argument was to write rulebooks that take..."My argument was to write rulebooks that take into account a college-grade reading level."<br /><br />If you are implying what I think you are, then this would preclude people of a younger audience, such as teenagers, which have been the target audience for RPGs since forever. That would be an incredibly idiotic move, since they usually are the most enthusiastic and the most willing to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-24904760113927951842012-06-18T20:02:30.188-04:002012-06-18T20:02:30.188-04:00Would you make the case that roleplaying is not on...Would you make the case that roleplaying is not on a fundamental level an intellectual activity? It is a matter of demographic - books that are written with college-level vocabulary are clearly for people who can comprehend them. Taking those same books and simplifying and paraphrasing them is a clear attempt to open them up to people who lack the ability to read the first copy. His argument isn&tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-65653437030099797662012-06-18T19:56:58.886-04:002012-06-18T19:56:58.886-04:00Well, I fundamentally disagree with you. There'...Well, I fundamentally disagree with you. There's nothing to really say other than the fact that you and I have different ideas of what should go into a roleplaying game.<br /><br />This is a totally different argument than the one that was being made earlier, and if we're really going to have it, it should probably be somewhere other than the tiny confines of this comment section.JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-50842877387675516802012-06-18T19:53:32.802-04:002012-06-18T19:53:32.802-04:00It's a technical manual FOR a roleplaying game...It's a technical manual FOR a roleplaying game.<br /><br />Let the game be as fancy and floofy as it wants in fluff and fiction, but once it's telling me how to roll dice, assign points and figure out success, yes, please, give me a goddamn technical manual.<br /><br />Roleplaying games aren't art, they're games. Games are meant to be played, the simpler the rules and mechanics Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16664590500983689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-11135055299848899112012-06-18T19:48:31.017-04:002012-06-18T19:48:31.017-04:00Neglecting to write in a "simple and easy-to-...Neglecting to write in a "simple and easy-to-read" style is NOT the same as purposefully obscuring your intentions. I agree that there's no reason to purposefully hide information; however, I do NOT agree that all concepts in pen and paper games need to be expressed in the SIMPLEST POSSIBLE LANGUAGE.<br /><br />It's not a technical manual, it's a roleplaying game.JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-64176574400924155132012-06-18T19:40:14.371-04:002012-06-18T19:40:14.371-04:00I'm sorry, you argued against, let me quote yo...I'm sorry, you argued against, let me quote you again...<br /><br />"a very simple and easy-to-read method of writing."<br /><br />> EASY TO READ.<br /><br />Since when is this not something to aspire to? A book should not intentionally dumb itself down if, for instance, the only way to describe a concept is to use a college-level vocabulary. But if every concept in the book can Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16664590500983689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-10844518517142311952012-06-18T19:35:55.873-04:002012-06-18T19:35:55.873-04:00Sorry, strawman. I didn't say "write purp...Sorry, strawman. I didn't say "write purposefully confusing rulebooks." My argument was to write rulebooks that take into account a college-grade reading level.<br /><br />If you think that's needlessly exclusive, then I guess you also have a problem with institutions of higher learning. And you must also think most human beings are pretty fucking dumb if they can't read andJDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-45480695975662871602012-06-18T19:25:43.991-04:002012-06-18T19:25:43.991-04:00Sure showed me.Sure showed me.JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-63248180605275237942012-06-18T19:25:14.220-04:002012-06-18T19:25:14.220-04:00*Oh no,
Here, let me helpfully edit that for you,...*Oh no,<br /><br />Here, let me helpfully edit that for you, Mr. English Professor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-80118715018618098382012-06-18T19:23:16.323-04:002012-06-18T19:23:16.323-04:00And your inability to actually argue any point I&#...And your inability to actually argue any point I've made paints you as a moron as well. What's your point?<br /><br />I started with Rifts, TMNT, and the other Palladium games. If you want obtuse game rules, look no further than that dying husk of a company that has refused to update its rules since the 80's. That is the shit I cut my teeth on, and I'd never go back to such Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-34461353544256943922012-06-18T19:17:38.696-04:002012-06-18T19:17:38.696-04:00Oh, no you're busting out your chops. Thank go...Oh, no you're busting out your chops. Thank god you proved that you love to play AD&D with your fancy words.<br /><br />Unfortunately, you still didn't prove that you understand the English language. Until you do, go home and don't come back.JDG Perldeinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632961831809544262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-66772066700443656062012-06-18T19:17:16.436-04:002012-06-18T19:17:16.436-04:00What makes your game more or less intellectual is ...What makes your game more or less intellectual is not whether the rules are HIGHLY ADVANCED or not, it's what content you put into it. I can take AD&D and turn it into a brainless hack&slash-fest for idiots who think Halo is an intellectual tour-de-force or I can take 4th edition D&D and create a deep and complex world full of puzzles, moral dilemmas and ethical gray areas.<br /><Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16664590500983689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-56318784881297985462012-06-18T19:16:21.366-04:002012-06-18T19:16:21.366-04:00Oh no. Someone on the internet is wrong! I better ...Oh no. Someone on the internet is wrong! I better stop them.ALT-F4https://www.blogger.com/profile/05339312314663495778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-8064113849564746622012-06-18T19:16:11.936-04:002012-06-18T19:16:11.936-04:00Funny, the AD&D 2nd Edition game I was in this...Funny, the AD&D 2nd Edition game I was in this past Saturday went quite well, especially when it was a Birthright game and we have to deal with running a whole nation! <br /><br />Or or, how about the many Rifts games I ran in the past, juggling 6 players at once using a clunky and ill-designed rules that makes even Synnibar look good?<br /><br />Nope, I'm clearly an idiot who can't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2991825497413540598.post-15177030276777034492012-06-18T19:14:41.083-04:002012-06-18T19:14:41.083-04:00I don't think anyone is saying that is the cas...I don't think anyone is saying that is the case, but rather that prioritizing design OVER content DOES make it FOR THE CASUAL PLEBES.tallstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551283423846186391noreply@blogger.com